S400 pellet on pellet groupings fact or fiction ?

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Re: S400 pellet on pellet groupings fact or fiction ?

Sat Mar 21, 2015 11:33 am

aye up ken,
the s400 will, and does outshoot any of us, and ragged 1 holers @ 30yds are achievable if we get it right :D
clean the barrel, then re-lead it by doing a shot string over the chrono, and then only use your best 50 shots in the sweet spot.
make sure your scope is true to a plumb line, draw a horizontal line on a piece of paper @ 30yds, get yerself bench rested, and fire 5 shot groups at the line.
dont worry about pellets striking left or right at the moment, get your shots zeroed horizontally, then take it from there ;)
let us know how you get on, any problems shout up on here.

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Re: S400 pellet on pellet groupings fact or fiction ?

Sat Mar 21, 2015 12:55 pm

I once put a .22 pellet through a 6mm hole at 25m & at my first attempt, my finest shot, ever!
S200, AA fields.
Si Pittaway on youtube has put pellet on pellet shots, on film, Verminhunters tv channel if memory serves.
he also hit exploding targets (that refused to play along!) at 90 yes ninety something metres!
but, all of the above were from a rest, pellet on pellet accuracy with a 400 is achievable, but, freehand, Hmm, lucky shot I`d say.
ragged one hole groups- far more realistic.
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Re: S400 pellet on pellet groupings fact or fiction ?

Sat Mar 21, 2015 2:56 pm

wastrel wrote:I once put a .22 pellet through a 6mm hole at 25m & at my first attempt, my finest shot, ever!
S200, AA fields.
Si Pittaway on youtube has put pellet on pellet shots, on film, Verminhunters tv channel if memory serves.
he also hit exploding targets (that refused to play along!) at 90 yes ninety something metres!
but, all of the above were from a rest, pellet on pellet accuracy with a 400 is achievable, but, freehand, Hmm, lucky shot I`d say.
ragged one hole groups far more realistic.


So called pellet on pellet. What is the acceptable group size or do you really want 4.5 mm pellets through a 4.6mm hole?
Ken, if you really want to practice for that kind of accuracy, get hold of some graph paper and dab a felt pen on intersecting lines about 25mm apart, then shoot single shots at each dot. I find that easier than shooting groups where you obliterate your aimpoint within a couple of shots.
Here's some 20 yard groups I did recently, all five shots, resting on a crate and a cushion.
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That was the Prosport, realistically a PCP will be easier to shoot and therefore MAY achieve slightly tighter groups.

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Re: S400 pellet on pellet groupings fact or fiction ?

Sat Mar 21, 2015 5:58 pm

yeah TT, but the point I`m trying to make is -you were resting, I was resting on my best day, Si Pittaway is resting in his vids-
freehand, one pellet sized holes- I don`t think so!
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Re: S400 pellet on pellet groupings fact or fiction ?

Sat Mar 21, 2015 6:18 pm

wastrel wrote:yeah TT, but the point I`m trying to make is -you were resting, I was resting on my best day, Si Pittaway is resting in his vids-
freehand, one pellet sized holes- I don`t think so!



free hand , dose that include using a sling ?
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Re: S400 pellet on pellet groupings fact or fiction ?

Sat Mar 21, 2015 7:00 pm

wastrel wrote:yeah TT, but the point I`m trying to make is -you were resting, I was resting on my best day, Si Pittaway is resting in his vids-
freehand, one pellet sized holes- I don`t think so!


Freehand is something different! Resting gives a better indication of what the rifle can do, it also proves how useless most of us are with an unsupported rifle. :mrgreen:

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Re: S400 pellet on pellet groupings fact or fiction ?

Sat Mar 21, 2015 7:22 pm

Timmytree wrote: it also proves how useless most of us are with an unsupported rifle.


Guilty as charged m'lud. :oops:

If unsupported shooting was required I'd be banned I'm that bad. Shooting is like owt else though, you play to your strengths not your weaknesses :lol: It's human nature to do so when required, I see no shame in that. ;)
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Re: S400 pellet on pellet groupings fact or fiction ?

Sat Mar 21, 2015 7:59 pm

It's very simple really.

For good groups you need short yards :roll:

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Re: S400 pellet on pellet groupings fact or fiction ?

Sat Mar 21, 2015 8:05 pm

if i was good at shooting freehand, which i'm certainly not :oops: i'd still opt for a rested shot when hunting.
i never go without my shooting sticks, and even then i'm always having a look for somewhere to rest my right elbow for a rock steady hold.
i've recently shot 49 rats and 4 mice here by the boats, and only missed 1, and had 1 rat that i couldnt recover. not because i'm a good shot, but because i took them all from a bench rested position sitting at franks patio table ;) cheat fairly, thats my motto :lol:

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Re: S400 pellet on pellet groupings fact or fiction ?

Sun Mar 22, 2015 2:24 pm

[quote="wastrel"]I once put a .22 pellet through a 6mm hole at 25m & at my first attempt, my finest shot, ever!
S200, AA fields.
on reflection- or my luckiest-you decide
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