Air Arms Owners Club

Sorry can't help myself, is that the yellow brick one, or the long and winding one, and for me it's .177 all the way. Rog.

On the .177 or .22 debate it's the very long and winding road

eboswan wrote:Im sure that we've been down this road before.........

oh yes, the road to nowhere!
please do a three point turn, and then move to a safe parking place.

I shot .22 for over 40 yrs "exclusively" and to great effect (exclusively) with a FWB sport 127.
I was astounded by a friends HW 100 kt .177 and bought one and have been astounded since. (3 years)
So i bought the HW 100 ks .22 "and been astounded since"( 3 years).
I also bought the Air Arms TX 200 HC . MK 3 .177 and lads, i was astounded again ! ( also 3 years)

I`ve been, and am, an air gun hunter of many a year and i do enjoy both calibers,- here is what i think and there is no "rocket science involved".

1, I zero both calibers at 28 yards (25 mt).- no hold under required.
2, Both calibers are equal in trajectory to 28 yds.
3, After 30 yds the trajectory of .22 becomes far more evident than .177.
4, After 28 yds in "polluted areas" - ie branches, gates, fences and especially spindle branches and copse - you cannot "thread" a shot through such obstacles with .22 as you can with the .177 with it`s trajectory.
Please bare in mind, i take field craft very seriously indeed and like to get close, real close .

Shot placement is "everything" with sub 12 ft/lb air rifles "NOT" calibers.
On "open, un obstructed shooting" both calibers are as accurate as each other,- without wind mind


I also use primos shooting sticks with most of my shooting,- the accuracy achieved springer or pcp is "second to none"


atb

Well i will just consider myself lucky enough to be in a position where i own rifles in both calibers. As i said I am new to the .177 scene and i have never had a problem with bagging my intended targets with .22 guess i am lucky i can do it with .177 too

Mark Williams wrote:I shot .22 for over 40 yrs "exclusively" and to great effect (exclusively) with a FWB sport 127.
I was astounded by a friends HW 100 kt .177 and bought one and have been astounded since. (3 years)
So i bought the HW 100 ks .22 "and been astounded since"( 3 years).
I also bought the Air Arms TX 200 HC . MK 3 .177 and lads, i was astounded again ! ( also 3 years)

I`ve been, and am, an air gun hunter of many a year and i do enjoy both calibers,- here is what i think and there is no "rocket science involved".

1, I zero both calibers at 28 yards (25 mt).- no hold under required.
2, Both calibers are equal in trajectory to 28 yds.
3, After 30 yds the trajectory of .22 becomes far more evident than .177.
4, After 28 yds in "polluted areas" - ie branches, gates, fences and especially spindle branches and copse - you cannot "thread" a shot through such obstacles with .22 as you can with the .177 with it`s trajectory.
Please bare in mind, i take field craft very seriously indeed and like to get close, real close .

Shot placement is "everything" with sub 12 ft/lb air rifles "NOT" calibers.
On "open, un obstructed shooting" both calibers are as accurate as each other,- without wind mind


I also use primos shooting sticks with most of my shooting,- the accuracy achieved springer or pcp is "second to none"


atb

hi mark, at 28yd zero the .22 needs around 1/2 inch holdunder from around 15-22yds, and the .177 requires 1/10th inch

of course though this would be depending on scope height above the boreline.

I have little issue with shooting quarry out to 35-40yds with a .22. nor should any experienced shooter. The notion of threading is silly and not one I've ever really encountered. If there are too many twigs in view - dont take the shot as its inhumane irrespective of calibre. If shooting in dense conifers - too dense for any calibre, just set up ambush points and feeders / baiting stations (squizzers), decoys (pigeons, corvids) and job done. I dont think rabbits climb trees.....none issue

Not sure wether this pictures goner go on here, but I swear by .177
I did the same had .22 for years, had ago with a s410 .177 never looked back. Sold my rapid, bought a s410 carbine n classic.
I've had great results. Hopefully you might see the picture

Well done that man. That's rabbit curry, rabbit dinner, rabbit salad, rabbit pie for the next month