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Trigger with an attitude ?

Posted: Thu Oct 08, 2020 11:35 pm
by Hawk-i
Hi all,
New here ..but not new to airguns and PCP. My other keepsake airgun is a DAYSTATE Huntsman Regal xl .25 cal FAC. Just got my hands on the S5100xs Carbine w/walnut stock, Regulated in .22cal, FAC. This a Gorgeous rifle. BUT...as there's always a 'but' to deal with when it comes to a 'new' airgun. I have a 'newbie' concerns with this AA rifle,
I'm wondering if it is really 'normal' for an AA airgun to have a 'gritty' trigger ? What I mean is...I can feel like the trigger is rubbing on sand paper. :o Not a smooth take-up travel. Very annoying and unpleasant with an airgun of this stature. :roll:
Welcome any comments or analysis from existing 'longtime ' users. Thanks.
Hawk-i

Re: Trigger with an attitude ?

Posted: Fri Oct 09, 2020 7:22 am
by Roger5
No it's not normal, but very easy to strip out and degrease, and I wouldn't lube it when you put back together
I've got a few S400s and S410s none of them are gritty. Rog

Re: Trigger with an attitude ?

Posted: Fri Oct 09, 2020 7:50 pm
by tonyc
I agree with Rog. In addition, I wonder if it's the spring to return the trigger blade. This is a poor design - an afterthought - and may be distorting when compressed. I've replaced all my AA trigger blades and done away with the spring... Rowan adjustables mostly.

Re: Trigger with an attitude ?

Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2020 2:16 am
by Hawk-i
Thank you Tony and Roger for your input, gents.
I will go about opening the Trigger block cover plate and inspect. If I do find an excessive amount of grease along the Sear faces...it will be removed. Otherwise I'll see about the spring as being the possible culprit.
I am familiar with Rowan Eng products...I have a set-back brass trigger blade on a Weihrauch HW77 SE with the Forest Green laminate stock.
Sort of disappointed in AA for this issue. Strange that my S510 went through QC with a gritty trigger :roll:

Re: Trigger with an attitude ?

Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2020 11:21 am
by Blackbaronfish
The rifles can end up in some shops for a long period of time and will be protected by the grease. Not everyone will notice a gritty trigger and that leads to further polishing.
Rowan Engineering triggers are without doubt fantastic but you will still need to open her up and checkout the sears.
To be honest I strip and relube most things I buy.

BBF

Re: Trigger with an attitude ?

Posted: Wed Oct 28, 2020 8:05 pm
by 143granville
got to be worth stirp and re lube .

Re: Trigger with an attitude ?

Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2020 7:49 pm
by TenMetrePeter
Hi folks just to let you know I put these two trigger videos back on YouTube.

Also that the arthritis that was making me so grumpy finally put an end to my shooting. It was getting too much by 2020 then indoor shooting got locked down for months and I made the decision. I sold my beloved rifle, Jacket, pellets, glove, box, the whole lot!

I probably would not spray with lube any more but it may help for new folk to Air Arms to see inside

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=MxKijBehH44

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=oAQkNT3Z3-w&t=1s

Re: Trigger with an attitude ?

Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2020 8:06 pm
by eboswan
Sorry too hear that Pete, but hang around you have years of knowledge members can tap into.

Re: Trigger with an attitude ?

Posted: Sat Nov 14, 2020 1:46 am
by Hawk-i
Hi folks just to let you know I put these two trigger videos back on YouTube.

Also that the arthritis that was making me so grumpy finally put an end to my shooting. It was getting too much by 2020 then indoor shooting got locked down for months and I made the decision. I sold my beloved rifle, Jacket, pellets, glove, box, the whole lot!

I probably would not spray with lube any more but it may help for new folk to Air Arms to see inside



Thank you TenMeterPeter for the video links. Brought some assurance towards going-in myself to do the Degreassing and Lubing with Napiers. I suspect Ballistoil will suffice since Napiers is no longer available in Canada. Very much appreciate your knowledge and input.
Hawk-i