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S410 100yards

Posted: Fri Apr 03, 2015 7:19 am
by kevingambrell
An S410 in its natural environment

Image20150309_121637 by kgambrell2000, on Flickr

Re: S410 100yards

Posted: Fri Apr 03, 2015 8:45 am
by Blackbaronfish
What was the hit rate. Its surprising on paper how good a group you can get on a fine wind free day. The problem is distance and wind every time

BBF

Re: S410 100yards

Posted: Fri Apr 10, 2015 9:26 am
by kevingambrell
I must admit I was a bit suprised by what the 410 will do at 100 yards. On a still day the rifle will print 2 inch groups with the odd flyer all day long, add a little wind and it all goes tits up with groups opening up to the width of the target. I did make one large step forward going over to the JSB heavy pellets, the drop goes up by a large degree but the heavier pellets buck the wind much better than the 8.44 grain Air arms. With JSB heavy pellets in a 2-3 MPH wind the spread on the groups stays for the most part bellow 5 inches.
Using a CZ425 with subsonic rounds at the same range in the same conditions im getting very similar results but with a lot more consistancey on grouping.
I cant help but think a boat tail pellet would be some of the answer to improving scores at 100 and 120 yards but at sub 12 foot pound energies I doubt they would stabalise. Mind you i have never seen such a beast for sale so I think im stuck with never knowing.
The other thing I would say is removing the moderator makes a huge difference at the longer ranges. Im not getting any pellet clipping as the moderator was set up using a bore plug but when its fitted the groups go tits up again. My thinking is turbulant air in the baffle system but in truth I dont realy know.

Re: S410 100yards

Posted: Sun Sep 06, 2015 7:17 pm
by oedbachgen
kevingambrell wrote:I must admit I was a bit suprised by what the 410 will do at 100 yards. On a still day the rifle will print 2 inch groups with the odd flyer all day long, add a little wind and it all goes tits up with groups opening up to the width of the target. I did make one large step forward going over to the JSB heavy pellets, the drop goes up by a large degree but the heavier pellets buck the wind much better than the 8.44 grain Air arms. With JSB heavy pellets in a 2-3 MPH wind the spread on the groups stays for the most part bellow 5 inches.
Using a CZ425 with subsonic rounds at the same range in the same conditions im getting very similar results but with a lot more consistancey on grouping.
I cant help but think a boat tail pellet would be some of the answer to improving scores at 100 and 120 yards but at sub 12 foot pound energies I doubt they would stabalise. Mind you i have never seen such a beast for sale so I think im stuck with never knowing.
The other thing I would say is removing the moderator makes a huge difference at the longer ranges. Im not getting any pellet clipping as the moderator was set up using a bore plug but when its fitted the groups go tits up again. My thinking is turbulant air in the baffle system but in truth I dont realy know.


It was interesting to read your post on the distance the s410 will shoot under the right conditions and using the correct weight of pellet, has for using a mod, I've heard other mentioning the clipping problems they have had when its on, I'm only going to target shoot so I don't think I will be getting one.

Re: S410 100yards

Posted: Sun Oct 25, 2015 8:09 am
by schony
Just curious, what was the drop at 100 yards please?
Thanks
Alan

Re: S410 100yards

Posted: Mon Nov 02, 2015 5:37 pm
by Sake-san
I would hazard a guess at something over 3 1/2 feet...